Showing posts with label Second Coming of Christ. Show all posts
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Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Revelation 20 and the 1,000 Years


The Premil vs. Amil Debate
 
The Pro A-Millennial Points
1.      Revelation is highly figurative; not to be taken literally.

2.      1000 years is too perfect a number to be taken literally.  It is a multiple of ten, which is often part of some symbolic reference (even number of perfection)

3.      The 1000 year millennium is only found in Revelation, and seems to contradict other passages which speak of a joint resurrection of the saved and the lost (as in Matthew 25, the sheep and the goats)

4.      Nowhere else is there any support that Satan will be bound, released, and bound again.  He has been bound partially by Christ at the first advent.

5.      2 Peter 3:10-13 describes the next event to be the coming of Christ and the reformulation of heaven and earth (new heavens and new earth), not a 1000 year delay after Christ returns.

6.      The 1000 years being the time between the two advents of Christ was supported by Augustine. 

7.      There is no separation in any other passage of the resurrection of the just and the unjust.  The resurrection of 20:4-5 is a spiritual resurrection of all.

8.      There is contextual indication that much of the entire book is figurative, even in the context of the 1000 year binding of Satan.  He is bound with a “great chain.” Is that a literal chain or figurative for some kind of spiritual restraint?

The Pro Pre-Millennial Counter-points

1.      Which parts do you take literally and which parts figuratively?  Did John write the book, or is his name to be taken figuratively?  What is the hermeneutic to decide which is literal and which is figurative? There is no contextual indication to take “1000 years” as a figure.

2.      To say the number 1000 is a number of perfection is to add it to the vast list of numbers said to represent perfection (adding it to the numbers 7, 40, 3, 12, 24)

3.      Even if one passage speaks plainly to a topic it is enough.  Reconciling seeming contradictions is the work of Biblical scholarship, not a reason to reject an interpretation (e.g. the conflict between James 2 and Romans 4).

4.      Satan is still active as indicated by Paul in 1 Thes 2:18.  He is still the “god of this world,” 2 Cor 4:4. His binding is yet future, indicated in Rev 20.
5.      The victory over Satan could not have taken place at Christ’s first advent because John wrote Revelation c. AD 91 and yet writes of “these things that must soon take place” (Rev 1:1).  The binding is future from his point in time.

6.      The study of the book is less important if the events all occurred in the past.

7.      Augustine took it as a literal 1000 years (although between the two advents).

8.      The 1000 years is not merely mentioned once, but six times, and other numbers where “thousand” is used in Revelation are best taken literally (e.g. Rev 7:4-8).  When used imprecisely it is found in the plural (e.g. 5:11).

9.      There is certainly a spiritual resurrection of the just (1 Cor 15), but not of the unjust. Just bodily resurrection.

10.  Satan is thrown into the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet already reside (20:10).  There must be a literal delay in Satan’s final judgment

11.  The mention of the “first resurrection” certainly implies that there is a second.  In what sense can this be taken figuratively?  What’s it a figure of?

12.  There is no metaphorical marker such as the use of “like” associated with the 1000 years (which John does use 26 other times in the book).

Sunday, August 14, 2011

The Waiting of All Creation, by Jay Quine

The Word "Creation" in Romans 8:19-22
She counted down the days until the wedding. Finally all the planning, all the talking, and the arrangements would come to an end. Although nervous, she and her beloved fiancĂ©’ would be married. That picture of anticipation is painted in the Bible’s portrayal of nature waiting for the day of our redemption. All creation is waiting, even groaning for the day when you and I will be fully redeemed in a future day of glory. This is Dr. Jay Quine. In my house are three cats, a gecko lizard, a rabbit, and a dwarf hamster. They have been subjected to futility. Sin has entered the world, affecting all of creation. Remember the word, and see them and all creation waiting for the day.

Thursday, August 11, 2011

Dr. Jay Quine: 2nd Peter and the Truth of God

Written by Peter A.D. 68 - 69

If 1 Peter 5:13 cryptically refers to Rome, then it is likely Peter wrote this second epistle shortly before his death, which tradition sets at late A.D. 68 or early 69. He wrote to challenge Christians to spiritual growth through knowledge of the truth so that they can ward off apostasy as they look for the Lord’s return.

Chapter 1:1-21 True Knowledge

Peter mentions the readers’ “true knowledge of God” to encourage and challenge them to live for the Lord and practice moral excellence, self-control, perseverance, godliness, kindness, and love rather than stumble in a lifestyle of sinful corruption. They can live by the truth knowing that the Lord will imminently return.

Chapter 2:1-22 False Teaching

The greatness of the word of God and knowledge of the truth is contrasted with the teaching and method of false prophets. Because they sow divisive heresy, deny the Lord as Master, follow sensuality, malign the truth, and exploit the sheep, Peter notes that they will be judged. He then warns his readers to stay away from these individuals.

Chapter 3:1-18 Expectant Living

After addressing the reality of being mocked by the world for living in expectation of Christ’s return, Peter affirms the certain truth of the second advent and the day of resurrection. The passage of time until then is really a time of God’s grace to allow others opportunity to turn toward God. Until that day believers are to be diligent in living a life of peace and practical holiness before the Lord.

Quine's Key Verse Suggestion: 2 Peter 1:5-8

“Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge, and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness; and in your godliness, brotherly kindness and in your brotherly kindness, love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

A Book of Unity - Ephesians - Comments by Dr. Jay Quine

The Epistle of Paul to the Ephesians

Written from Rome c. A.D. 60-62

While under house arrest in Rome (Acts 28), Paul writes a letter to the church in Ephesus to be circulated to the Christians living in Asia Minor, which extols the theological basis of God's plan to unite all believers in Christ (1--3), which serves as a basis for his exhortation to high ethical and practical living (4--6) in a hostile world to preserve unity in the Spi

Chapters 1--3 The Theological Basis for Unity

Paul describes the incredible blessings from God stemming from the elective grace of the Father (1:3-6), the sacrifice of the Son (1:7-12) and the seal of the Spirit (1:13-14) as a basis for unity of all believers. He demonstrates that the response to these irrevocable blessings is love for others, and wise living in increased knowledge and in united submission to the authority of Christ (1:15-23), acknowledging that God saves everyone the same way: as His gift (2:1-10). This has united all believers everywhere, even as diverse as Jew and Gentile (2:11-22). This unity into one body in Christ encourages Paul to pray for the expression of that unity in the church (3:1-21).

Chapters 4--6 The Timeless Application of Unity

Exhorting the believer to live in an honorable manner, Paul reminds them of the overall objective of unity of the Spirit (4:1-6). To assist them in developing and preserving this unity, Paul directs their attention to God's provision of spiritual gifts for spiritual growth (4:12-16). Given the many kinds of relationships between believers (husband and wife, parent and child, master and slave, etc.) Paul contrasts choices in living while exhorting the believer to imitate God in furtherance of his desire to promote unity (4:17--6:9). Knowing believers face spiritual warfare designed to disrupt unity, Paul reminds them to stand against the enemy by relying on the spiritual armament God has provided.

Quine's View of the Key Verse: Ephesians 4:2-3

"With all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing forbearance to one another in love, being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace."

Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Thessalonian Hope by Jay A. Quine

Comments on 1st Thessalonians

Corinth A.D. 51

(Acts 18:11)

Paul (with Silas, Timothy, and Luke) visited the capital city of the Roman province of Macedonia on his second missionary journey. After spending three weeks preaching at the synagogue, he established a church there with some Jewish and many Greek converts. Paul was forced to leave the city by a riotous mob incited by jealous local Jewish leaders (Acts 17:1-10). Rejoined by Timothy in Corinth, he hears of the continued great faith, love and hope of the Thessalonian believers in spite of local opposition (1 Thes 1:3). His letter encourages them to continue to be the model of Christianity they had become in expectation of the imminent return of Jesus Christ.

Chapters 1-3 Continue to Live for the Lord

Seeing the evidence of their election by God, Paul encourages the Thessalonian believers to continue their godly living in anticipation of Christ’s return by reciting their joyous reception of the word he preached to them, and their witness of the word to others. They should continue to model their faith by imitating the good example Paul set forth when he was among them.

Chapter 4:1-12 Continue to Please God with Certain Behavior

Paul instructs them in specific godly living in anticipation of Christ’s return. Their reputation is good, but Paul encourages them to live to please God even more by separating from moral impurity (4:3-8), by loving one another even more (4:9-10), and even though Christ’s return in imminent, by continuing to live quiet, responsible, and productive lives (4:11-12).

Chapters 4:13 - 5:28 Continue to be Hopeful for the Future Reunion

Paul encourages the Thessalonian believers by explaining that they should not be concerned for those who have died before Christ’s return, for upon the command, the dead believers shall rise first, to be united in the clouds with believers still living, who together meet Christ in the air (4:13-18). They are reminded that unbelievers remain behind to suffer the day of God’s wrath (5:1-10). They are to encourage others with these words of comfort, living in expectation of that moment (5:11-28).

Key Verse: 1 Thessalonians 3:13

“So that He may establish your hearts unblamable in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all His saints.”